Public Threat Alert – 123people.com
scamFRAUDalert believe websites that harvest public records database and sell the harvested information are a public threat.
Why? Because individual private records regardless of it in the public domain are being sold to someone adversary or to some criminal organization.
The sale of people private records is a practice that law makers and law enforcement need to pay keen attention. This business model is a CLEAR and PRESENT DANGER to our privacy and a threat to humanity.
These business practices Are A Threat To The Global Internet Infrastructure
I stumbled across this rather dubious site called 123people.com who have crudely used robots to scrape public information about me and the hundreds of other people who shared my name or second name. In my opinion, we must mobilise and see them charged, convicted and jailed for a range of data protection, libel and consequential damages crimes. A simple search for 123people complaints that excludes their site finds 2.3 million hits. Something’s wrong.
While the items of information they have aggregated about me is, or was correct and was at least once public, it was previously in context. I had placed this information on trusted websites like LinkedIn where it accurately presented my credentials but not at 123people.com.
They have haphazardly interlinked my web presence with that of others with a similar name, regardless of sex. For example, a woman with my second name and 19 positive criminal record searches which reads like we are related and an advertisement for a male hooker and a punk rocker from my old town. Despite sourcing much of this mash-up from LinkedIn, they proudly announce that I have no professional linkages which also transmits a completely inaccurate picture.
After a number of difficult attempts, I have marked all my links to 123people for removal and will give them a few days to act. If they have not corrected this nonsense at that point, I will be looking to lead a significant legal claim against them on behalf of all of us who have been affected. Let me know any interest in providing evidence and legal services.
Linke Wienzeile 8/29
Vienna, 1060, AUT
Markus Wagner @MarkusWagner
I’m a European web 2.0 business incubator Vienna / Austria / Europe ·http://hoteurostartups.wordpress.com
- i5invest’s investments include:
- 3united AG: (Exit to VeriSign Inc.2006)
- 123people.com: (Exit to Pages Jaunes Group 2010)
- tripwolf.com: (Joint Venture MairDumont Media Group, Dieter von Holtzbrinck)
- tupalo.com: (Joint Venture European Directories Group/Herold)
- wikitude GmbH: (Grand Prize Winner of the 2010 NAVTEQ Global LBS Challenge
- EMEA, second at Austrian Private Equity & Venture Capital Award 2011)
- adaffix GmbH: (Global Mobile Award 2010 for Best Mobile Internet Service)
Paul Weinberger, Chairman of the board
Lukas Zinnagl, Business Development
Russell Perry, CEO
Stefan Kalteis, CEO
Am 05.11.2010 15:48, schrieb ScamFraudAlert:
Thank you for your e-mail. We appreciate your feedback and we can assure you that we work very hard to answer your questions regarding data protection laws and regulations.
123people is a free real time search service that finds information that is publicly available on the Internet (i.e. social networking profiles). 123people enables users to check and control their digital footprint and find out what personal information is publicly available on the web.
Please understand that 123people provides a tool to make the search for people related information more convenient. We cannot ensure that information found on the web applies only to one person as the search is related to a name pair, not to a specific person. The more common a name pair is, i.e. “John Smith”, the less specific the information will be.
We do not store any person related profiles or information. This means we are not able to distinguish and separate between different people displayed in our search results, only between names. We comply and are registered under the Austrian Data Protection Laws as we are based in Vienna, Austria.
In every search result there is a certain degree of inaccuracy; results are not often related to a single individual. As we have developed and utilize an automated search technology, a 100% accuracy rate is not possible. We rely on the “human factor”, the user, to make the final distinction of available and relevant information.
If you do not want to be found through 123people, we recommend changing or deleting the inaccurate information that concerns your person from the original source or website. It will therefore disappear from 123people and most other search engines without our intervention. You can use 123people to identify all data sources by looking at your search results. Sources are clearly identified with either a symbol or a text link.
If however you want us to remove information that concerns you explicitly from 123people we are more than happy to follow your request.
Please send us the specific search result links that point directly to the personal information in question.
How to identify your personal links:
1. Search for the requested name pair on 123people.
2. Click on any link in the search result or on the small icon on the bottom left of the thumbnail.
3. Copy the full link displayed in the grey 123people frame within the redirected page or the link provided in the picture thumbnail preview.
4. Send us the links via e-mail along with your full name and we will restrict them on our search service, in compliance with European Guidelines and the Austrian Data Protection Law.
If you would like us to restrict your address or your phone number, please give us the exact link from the source which you can obtain by copying the link location/address (and indicate us the exact address that appears on 123people search results).
How do I copy a link to send it to 123people?
Once you’ve identified the link you would like to send, you must do the following:
- Right click on the link. A menu will appear will some options
- Selection the following option: “Copy Link Location”
- Keep in mind different browsers have slightly different variations on this, but the main text to search for is: “Copy Link…”
With the link copied, you must paste it into the email. To do this, simply create a new email, right click in the message area and select “Paste”.
Please note that although we can restrict a certain link from 123people, the information will continue to exist publicly on the Internet. This means if someone searches for the same name pair on another search engine, the link may continue to appear.
Advice: you can only request link restriction pertaining to your name.
Please visit our web site for detailed information and screenshots about how to identify the links appearing on 123people:
Every month more than 40 million users rely on our people search service. 123people has in many cases been beneficial with people helping them to control and manage their digital footprint, find lost friends and family members or make new business contacts.
Customer Service Specialist
canonical name http://www.123people.com
Domain Whois record
Queried whois.internic.net with “dom 123people.com
Domain Name: 123PEOPLE.COM
Registrar: PSI-USA, INC. DBA DOMAIN ROBOT
Whois Server: whois.psi-usa.info
Referral URL: http://www.psi-usa.info
Name Server: NS.NEXTLAYER.AT
Name Server: NS2.NEXTLAYER.AT
Updated Date: 02-jun-2012
Creation Date: 01-jun-2004
Expiration Date: 01-jun-2013
Last update of whois database: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:12:12 UTC
Queried whois.psi-usa.info with “123people.com”…
This is the PSI-USA, Inc. WHOIS server.
All requests are logged.
Requesting IP: 184.108.40.206
requesting URL: http://whois.psi-usa.info
Requesting Object: domain 123people.com
Timestamp: 2013-04-21 16:12:51
You can see the policy that you agree by submitting a query to this server:
whois -h whois.psi-usa.info POLICY
created: 2004-06-02 01:25:43
expire: 2013-06-02 01:25:43 (registry time)
changed: 2012-11-20 07:40:35
[owner-c] handle: 10182684
[owner-c] type: PERSON
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[owner-c] lname: Bernold
[owner-c] org: 123people
[owner-c] address: Stronsdorf 24
[owner-c] city: Stronsdorf
[owner-c] pcode: 2153
[owner-c] country: AT
[owner-c] state: Austria
[owner-c] phone: +43-664-4398603
[owner-c] fax: +43-2526-6710
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[owner-c] protection: B
[owner-c] updated: 2010-03-26 09:53:42
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[admin-c] lname: Stemeseder
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[admin-c] city: Wien
[admin-c] pcode: 1060
[admin-c] country: AT
[admin-c] state: AT
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[admin-c] protection: B
[admin-c] updated: 2010-06-15 12:02:22
[tech-c] handle: 10176046
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[tech-c] city: Wien
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[tech-c] state: AT
[tech-c] phone: +43-664-4398603
[tech-c] fax: +43-2526-6710
[tech-c] email: firstname.lastname@example.org
[tech-c] protection: B
[tech-c] updated: 2010-06-15 12:02:22
[zone-c] handle: 10176046
[zone-c] type: PERSON
[zone-c] fname: Martin
[zone-c] lname: Stemeseder
[zone-c] org: 123people
[zone-c] address: Linke Wienzeile 8/29
[zone-c] city: Wien
[zone-c] pcode: 1060
[zone-c] country: AT
[zone-c] state: AT
[zone-c] phone: +43-664-4398603
[zone-c] fax: +43-2526-6710
[zone-c] email: email@example.com
[zone-c] protection: B
[zone-c] updated: 2010-06-15 12:02:22
Network Whois record
Queried whois.ripe.net with “-B 220.127.116.11″…
% Information related to ‘18.104.22.168 – 22.214.171.124′
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remarks: between 0900 and 1800 (CET) at +43 5 1764 110. Outside
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